Ask Doug: Death Metal and Other Music Discussions

Repost of an older video:

The Ask Doug Question:
“When young people in a church are death metal fans, what are the operating principles for discussion with them on this topic?”

Death Metal Part I (this video)

Death Metal Part II

Death Metal Part III

Death Metal Part IV

 

10 Comments

  1. Anonymous says:

    How would you respond to the assertion that death metal falls under the “all things are lawful but not all things are advantageous” category?

  2. don says:

    I have found most people who make that argument are attempting to justify something that in their heart they know is wrong. The logic of that argument will justify anything — theft, drunkenness, adultery, murder…

  3. John says:

    Another question is: Are we not called to “rebel” against the god of the age?

  4. Doug,

    You haven’t addressed here the phenomenon of Christian Metal music. By your standards, the teen boys in my church could tell you what the songs are about.

    This is not to say that I don’t think the music itself is sending a message of its own apart from the lyrics, but from in my experience, kids who listen to Christian Metal know very well what the songs are about lyrically.

    Could you “re-answer” the question from this perspective?

    Some food for thought here:

    http://michaelkrahn.com/blog/2010/01/25/christian-death-metal-the-message-of-the-medium/

  5. David Meyer says:

    Doug,
    I think you hit the wrong target dead on.

    “Christian” death metal has lyrics that are often great and the kid could tell you what they mean. And only he could, which is the problem. The music mirrors everything bad about modern music EXCEPT the words.
    I have often been at a loss as to how to explain this. The above post by Michael hits on something when he says the music itself sends a message apart from lyrics.

    Reminds me of iJohn 3:18: Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth. By this we shall know we are of the truth and reasure our hearts before him.

    Christian death metal has true words but no truth.

  6. wesley strebeck says:

    I think some of this is oversimplified. I think there is a significant amount of “harder” music that hits on the brokenness of our societies and the world in general that we are not taking into account within these discussions. more later.

  7. Josh Briggs says:

    I do believe you are right on what you are addressing which is a secular music that got it’s name from a band called Death. The genre was quickly embraced by those opposed to God. The even darker and almost exclusively satanic sub-genre black metal is notorious for it’s sinister lyrics and acts of violence, including CHURCH BURNINGS. So, Doug’s assertion that Christians should not indulge in this form of rebellion is spot on.

    However, there is another side that many people have mentioned. “What about ‘Christian’ metal?” There are few Christian bands who write intelligible lyrics or who live out there faith with any credibility. August Burns Red is one of the few. Underoath ended there time as a band with three of them openly denying Christ. And, Tim Lambesis, of As I Lay Dying, is in the news for trying to hire someone to murder his wife. Tim Lambesis also sent her an email confessing adultery and denying God, and yet continued to front a ‘Christian’ metal band.

    What does this all mean? All music belongs to God and should be played to glorify Him. Most concerts I’ve been to even the ‘Christian’ ones, they were more concerned about getting a ‘circle pit’ going.

    Can metal music edify the believer and glorify God? Yes, I think it can but just like with all things we shouldn’t give it the stamp of approval just because someone claims they are singing for the Lord. Much of the lyrics I’ve come across are nothing more than anthems of self-empowerment and striving to live better. They are fast-paced Joel Osteen sermons with a double-kick drum.

  8. Kirk says:

    Hi this is off topic because i could not find the ask questions box, but as a christian how does one love his enemies? Especially after something tragic happens to ones family?

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